September 11, 2020 • 28 mins
The country star discusses his ongoing, multi-part album project, compares the music industry to his stint on Survivor, and explains why he has a crossbow range in his house.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome the Inside the Studio presented by I Heart Radio.
I'm your host, Joe Lousy. Okay, So, if you have
talked to as many musicians as I have, you have
heard a lot of stories about life on the road,
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and some of them are hilarious, and some of them
are sad, and some of them are something else. Because
I've talked with musicians who simply cannot adjust to staying
in one place at a time after so many nights
in vans, buses, airplanes. I mean, I've talked to guys
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who have trouble sleeping in a bed that's not moving.
And I thought of that when the guests on this
episode of the home edition of the show, Chase Rice
opened up about having some difficulty tapping into his creativity
because these last few months of quarantine are the longest
he's ever been off the road since he started putting
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out music ten years ago. I mean, as he puts it,
when he's on, he's on, and when he's off, he's off.
And I guess lately he feels like he's off. He's
been on vacation sort of. I mean he's even checking
in with us from Wrightsville Beach in North Carolina. So
things are not all bad. You know. We started the
home edition of Inside the Studio to let you know
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how the pandemic has impacted the lives of artists and
how it's affecting the way they make music. Chase Rice
has released two EPs already this year, and he tells
our Quarantine correspondent Jordan Runtog that there may be a
stadium sized guest collaboration on the third, which he's working
on now. If you enjoy this episode, be sure to
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listen to the I Heart Radio podcast that Jordan's hosts.
It's called Rivals, Music's Greatest Feuds, and it's available where
ever you get your podcasts. Hello everybody, my name is
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Jordan run Tug. But enough about me. My guest today
has worn many hats over the years. He was a
college football linebacker, a member of the NASCAR pit crew,
and a contestant on the reality show Survivor Nicaragua. But
you know him as a country powerhouse who first climbed
the charts with Ready Set Role. Since then, he scored
hits like Eyes on You and also panned the Florida
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Georgia line smash Cruise in January. He's surprised fans by
releasing the album Part one, the first in a series
of EPs featuring what he says is some of the
most meaningful music he's ever made. I'm so happy to
welcome Chase Rice, Chase, thank you so much for being here.
Oh no, thank you man. This will be And I'm
literally at the beach and I'm just chilling. So oh nice.
Wait what beach right? Soul Beach in North Carolina? Oh nice? Oh?
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I used to go to the Outer Banks as a
kid every year. Yeah, actually just south of there. So
um so this this day in quarantine finds you very well,
I should say, yeah, this is this is one of
the good ones for sure. Oh man, that's good to hear.
How have you been feeling, I mean, are you feeling
particularly creative during lockdown or not so much? Uh No,
I'm not. I haven't been on the type of I
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think that like when I'm on, I'm on, I'm I'm go,
go go, and when I'm off, I'm off. And I've
always been good about that because I'm on ten months
a year, so there's two months off are pretty easy.
It's like, okay, well I don't have that long, so
I'll take off. But this has been weird. Obviously, this
is the longest time I've ever not towards so um
I'll shut my mind off from that. And it's been
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very hard for me, especially live shows or what I
really thrive off of, and that that's the energy that
I love. UM, So not being able to do those
it's been it's been hard. Well. I know, in January
you put out the album Part One, which I think
you've described it as like the beginning of your career
as I think the quote you had for why is
that was it feeling like you were getting back to
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basics in a way, or I mean I've only played
I didn't even learn how to play guitar, so I
was like twenty two years old or around there. So
I think you just do something long enough, no matter
what it is, and you get better at it as
you go. And I think tip of the iceberg for
me was was for sure eyes on You. I just
really really found what I really wanted to do, I
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think with that song, and so that gliding right into
the album Part one, I think that's the That's that's
why I say it at the beginning of my career
because it's really what I found what I want to do.
I mean, you weren't so many hats in the past.
You've football, linebacker, NASCAR pit man, been on Survivor. Did
you know from an early age that music was what
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you wanted to do with your life or was this
something that kind of revealed itself to you later? No? No,
I definitely revealed itself later. We Uh, Like I said,
I didn't know how to play guitar until I was
years old somewhere around there. So once I learned that,
it was more just I just love playing guitar. I
love learning these songs from the guys that I grew
up listening to. And and I remember one of my
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college roommates was like, he said, man, you should be
a country singer, where he was sitting there playing and
I'd sing along in the dorm room and stuff, and
that was as foreign as him saying you should be
an astronaut, like that's how fun was playing football. I
was focused on that, And so when he said that,
I just it's funny now that after seeing obviously what's
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going on with my life and and doing this for real,
is is um it's crazy that that not that long ago,
it was such a foreign concept to me, and they
tore in with Willie Nelson Garth Brooks, that's crazy. What
would Baby Chase think of that? It's incredible. Yeah, I would.
I would definitely look back if you had told me
that way back then, I'd be like, wait, what, So
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a lot of fun, It's been a lot of fun
to get to this this point. Now. It's uh, obviously
this year's kind of a weird one for everybody, but
it's it's still in a great direction and I'm I'm
excited to the day where we can finally actually play
the album Part one live into the album Part one.
Part two came in in May. What was the strategy
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behind sort of dividing the album up like that. It's
just the white people listen to music these days. Um,
it's just it's become a singles world. And I don't
like that very much because I think it just focuses
to that's just not how I how I grew up
listening to music. So I tried to find a little
bit of a middle ground of I don't want to
just put out singles. I don't want to just do that.
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I want to still tell a story. Albums to me
are still very important, but I want each song to
have it's it's time in the limelight. I want each
song to have it's time to be heard. And if
you put fifteen sixteen songs on a on a record anymore,
people tend to just kind of go through and pick
a couple of their favorites and move on. But if
you give them less to listen to, but giving more music,
you know less music more often. I'm finding that that
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gives people the chance to really dive into seven songs,
or drive into four songs or three songs and learn
those and then they can move onto two more music.
What can we look forward to on part three? I
haven't fully put it together yet, to be honest, but
I think I've never really done a huge, huge collapse.
I did ride with Macy malloy and she's amazing, um,
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But for me to do a song with any artists
that just is up in the stadium's level of music
and a huge arena level of music, um, which I'm
not there yet. I'm still clawing and fighting to get there. UM.
I think that could be something pretty special. So I'm
working on a possible song with f gl Um. I
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think it's It's a cool story with those guys because
we were roommates when I first moved to town, and
I don't hope a lot of people know that. We
literally just lived in the house. We we're broke as
you can pretty much get, and we were just writing
songs together. We ended up writing Cruise and that changed
my life, it changed their life. Um, and we haven't
put out anything mainstream ever together. So I think if
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if we could figure out a way to find a song,
we got a couple in mind, we're gonna go in
the studio and just kind of see what happens. But
I think that will be the highlight of the album
part three and possibly um pushing whatever song we end
up figuring out to being the next thing. Oh, that
is incredible. I I also heard you're working with Shay
from Tan and Shay Too. What's the latest on that? Yeah?
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I love Shay, I don't Shay years. Um. We have
a song called Secrets that we've just never finished. It's
I mean, we started it one night and literally after
bar we just wanted to his apartment which is also
a studio, started this song and then like two and
a half years later, got back together, started to finish it.
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Still didn't finish it. Um and now we every time
we see each other like, hey man, when we're gonna
finish secrets. So I don't know one day what day
that will happen, but we'll finish it at some point
because it is a great song. It sounds like a
good Quarantine project. Yeah. That's the thing is that you
think right now we have all the time in the
world to be creative and do music. But for me,
my mind just in there. So I think it's gotta
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it's gotta come to you. Yeah, I can't force it
for me, it does I I can't force it. If
I force it, trust me that you ain't gonna life
what you hear. I know you're you're a very active
journal or journalist, diarists something like that. Do you ever
draw your song inspirations from what you write in your
in your journal? Not really. I don't think that it's
directly correlates to a song, Like I don't write something
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and be like, oh, that's a good song title. But
I do think it's it's been why I can write songs.
I think it's it's allowed me to just be able
to dive into that part of your brain when you're journaling.
My only rule is just to write. I have no rules,
just right Philip age, Philip page, and whatever comes out
comes out. Um, And usually it's about the day before
that that day whatever, I do it in the morning
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and night. But I think that allows me to go
to that part of my brain that is kind of
similar or at least close to writing songs and get
creative in that way. So it's it's definitely helped me
along the way. I would say, do you start with
a lyric or a title or do you have a
tune in your head and then put lyrics to sort
of fit whatever that tune is. Um, they kind of
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hit at the same time sometimes, But I like, I
like having titles and ideas and when I say that,
like to me, the melody is gonna come. We're gonna
figure that part out. But as long as I have
a title and where I kind of wanted to go, um,
like like guys on you, for instance, I'll tell you
about how we wrote that one. It's uh actually Groy
was in there playing the piano and I was just
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I had I walked in and I was like, man,
that that sounds amazing. But I don't. I don't know.
I mean, obviously, what is it about. It's just a
piano melody. So I'm looking through my phone, looking through
my phone. It's where I keep my notes. And I
had a song called eyes on You travel the whole world,
but missed it all because your eyes are on her,
And I just thought about that. I was like, that's
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enough for me. If I have that and I have
the title, at least have the idea of what that means,
then you can put it to a melody. And that's
what we did that particular day, and uh, and obviously
the rest of that one is history. So it's some
days it works like that. Some days it doesn't work
at all. So songwriting songwright could be the toughest thing
you've ever done. And then some days a song like
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guys on You comes. It's like going fishing. Some days
he catch nothing, and then some days you get a
big one. Some days you catch them all. So yeah,
some days you read a bunch of little or you
catch a bunch of little ones, and some days that
that big one hits, and it's, uh, those are the
fun ones. I love fishing. So you're talking about language,
I I saw a video tour you were giving of
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your house recently. Uh, beautiful house, something I had never
seen before. You have an indoor crossbow range. Yeah, that's
compound bow is what I should. I could shoot across across.
I have a different target for that, but it's mainly
just I have my bow set up right there. When
I don't feel like walking the when I'm lazy enough
to not want to walk the hunter yards out to
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the outdoor range, or if it's too hot or some
like that, I'll just pick it up real quick watching TV,
take a couple of shots. And it's a good practice
for me. I'm a big hunter. Um and and for
me it means a lot. I mean, you're going out there,
you're putting an animal in danger like that. You better
be good. You better practice what you're doing, because my
goal is to go out there and get it done
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as quick as possible so that they feel the least
amount of pain they can. And uh, and then I
have a freezer full of food for at least a year,
So that's uh. I take it very seriously. And that
that that compound bone in my kitchen helps a lot.
Let's gonna say, what is your favorite distraction these days
when you know, we all need that, we need to
go exercise, binge watch, tiger king or something like. Is
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that hunting for you? What's your favorite distraction these days? Uh?
Well that that's usually the time of the year for me,
which is the fall. So I haven't been able to
do that a lot. Um. I've been starting to get
back into two fishing a good bit. Um, but I
like going out west of fish so and I'm a
big fly f fly fish. That's about all I do.
I might start going back out there now that everything's
to open it up a little bit at least to travel, Um,
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go out there and start doing a little bit fishing.
I'm at the beach this week and just kind of relaxing,
getting away from everything. Um, and a lot of drinking.
I have, me and my buddies. We've had we've had
a quarantine crew with a couple of families and a
couple of friends and and we have we have drink
enough enough to fill this ocean over here, I believe
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in the last three months. And I think a lot
of people are doing that. Um. It went from like
Friday Saturday too, all right, Thursday, Friday, Saturday Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
all right, Monday? Why not? Uh so we gotta we
we've better tone it back a little bit, but we've
got fun. How has there been a sort of a
silver lining of all this for you? Is it like
taught you something about yourself? You picked up a new hobby. Well,
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I remember telling him John, my tour manager. So we
took February and March off the beginning of the year.
It's just a week of gear up for the rest
of the year. And I said to him, like, probably
three weeks before we're about to go back out in April.
I said, Man, I'm not really ready to go back yet.
I just kinda that was a short break and we
just kept traveling through the break. We pick up an
acoustic show here, uh, any type of show just to
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go play, you know, whatever it was. And and I
didn't get my break in. And I remember and I
talked to God a lot. Whether whether he hears me
or not, I'm not real sure. But I was just like, man, God,
I'm not really ready to go back here, um just yet.
And uh, he answered me, and possibly the biggest way
he's ever answered anybody, he said, all right, cool, take
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the rest of the year off. And I didn't quite
mean that, but here we are. It's a It's definitely
allowed me to fall in love with wanting to get
on the road again and wanting to tour and wanting
to be Um, you get tired, I mean you get
real tired on the road, especially when you toured for
seven basically seven straight years like we have. So this
has allowed me to realize I'll probably never complain about
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tour again in my life. I'll be like, oh, thank God,
let us go. It's definitely a big be careful what
you wished for a moment, I guess so you're for sure.
I'm still I'm still living in this wish right now.
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I UM, I loved your song Belong. I just thought
it was such a sort of a hopeful, optimistic message
in these you know, really stressful to multiple divided times.
Uh what does that song mean to you? Where did
that come from? Yeah? It's um, it means a lot.
It means a whole whole lot, especially right now, and
I think it's it's getting even more important the more
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stressed out people are getting. The more I'm not real sure.
There's just so many different issues going on right now
and so many different opinions on on so many different things.
So the part that I don't love about something's going
right now just is a lot of negativity, whether that's
people not wanting to hear other people's opinions. And I
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just think that people need to slow down and actually
have conversations about these things because the battles on social
media and stuff, it's, uh, it's dangerous. It allows you
to kind of hide behind the screen. And if people
will just have conversations and actually talk about it, I
think they'll realize that every it's not as crazy as
as some people are making it out to be. So
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that's why I just wanted to put that message out there.
It's like, y'all, let's take a second. We're right where
we belong. We're not changing what's going on right now,
that this is the world we live in. Whether it's quarantine,
whether it's social injustice matters, um, so let's have a
conversation about it and enjoy where we are. And I
think that will actually spring forward a lot more change
for the future. And uh, it's conversations need to happen,
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and I think that's what belongs about for me especially,
We're right where we belong. Let's talk about it, let's
live in it, and hopefully learn from and move forward
in a in a positive way. Great song, a great message.
What have you been listening to during quarantine? Because I
don't know about you, but I've been sort of following
back on the old familiar like I've been listening to
the stuff I've been listened to since high school just
because I want to feel that sort of connection and
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just familiarity. How about you? Yeah, it's I started laughing
because I was like, oh, my god, So I've been
hanging out. There's there's been two buddies that, uh, that
I've become and that he's talked about silver lining. These
two guys, I didn't really know him that well before quarantine.
And one's Ryan Johansson from the Nashville Predators and once
James Neil from the Evans and Oilers who used to
play for the Preds. And they're hockey guys. These are
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got hockey guys straight out of Canada. And my god,
like now we've just become really good buddies. But I'll
say this, I have never heard more nickel back in
my entire life. Than hanging out with these two guys. Man,
it's it's I mean, we have a playlist that the
day will be going, that they'll be going as soon
as rock star or photograph comes on. It's like our
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eyes are gonna meet at some point around the house
or some point point around the pool wherever we're all hanging.
It's like, oh God, here we go again. We're actually
doing this again today. Okay, nickelbacks off, Let's go No exactly. Yeah,
that's like the kind of stuff that we playing. It's
just like I want something I I know that just
makes me, just takes me away from where I am now.
I guess maybe I'm not sure why I do it. Yeah,
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I know. I love reminiscent songs. I think one of
the best to ever do songs like that, um is
Kenny Chesty. I think he's got a lot of songs
like that. I'm at the beach right now. Anything but
mine is one of my favorite songs of all time.
So I love songs that do take me back, and
I will I will forever after this, I'll be able
to hear nickelback and it'll take me back to this
quarantine promise. Oh yeah, Well, I guess I didn't think
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about that being but I'm I'm putting new memories on
these old songs now exactly. Now you're gonna think about quarantine.
Oh man, I gotta choose my songs more carefully now,
I gotta ask. I'm a huge Willie Nelson fan. I
know you've been on the road with him. Uh what
was that? Like? My God, that's that's a dream for
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me because I have a lot of memories. My grandpa
and grandma will come visit me and my brothers once
a year and they take they take us on the
road and their motor home. And that's part why I
think I got it. I love being on the road
so much because I grew up like really wanting to
enjoy and really looking forward to hanging out with my
grandparents for two weeks in the summer in a motor home,
you know, kind of tour bus type style, UM and
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travel in the country. And the song he'd always played
when he rolled in on this ultimate horn, this little
push button thing that they have, UM was on the
road again by Willie Nelson. And every time he'd come in,
he'd be playing that, and every time he'd leave, they'd
be playing that, so that always took me back to
hanging out for on summers, kind of my training for
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being on tour for the rest of my life. And
then the very first guy that I go on to
tour with, it was a two week long thing eight
nine years ago now, um, was with Willie Nelson. So
it was unbelievable. It was really cool to hear him
sing that, obviously because that one took me back. Um,
and he's a I mean he wrote crazy like that.
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That's one of the greatest songs of all time and
and uh, funny time slips away. I know, man, it's uh.
It was unbelievable, really cool experience, and really cool that
I got to get to say that I didn't you know, yeah,
did you let you play trigger a guitar? I got
to touch trigger one time. I didn't. I didn't play trigger. Um,
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I'm sure he would have. I don't know, but I
did get I put my hands on trigger, and I
was just like, this is history right here. Oh man,
that's that's so cool. So I got a funny question
for it. You've done so much prior to music, I've
never been able to ask anyone this, but you're in
a unique position to answer, in what ways is the
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music industry like being on survivor coming for you? It's um,
So you can plead the fifth if you want, no, No,
it's it's a good question. UM. I do think there's
an aspect of of competition in music, and I think
you'd be crazy not to say that that's not true. Um. Yeah.
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Everybody talks about Nashville, how it's a community. Everybody talks
about how it's like one big family. But at the
end of the day, we're all still trying to get
our songs played. So the less songs that this over
here is getting played, the more chance I have a
getting eyes on you or only if you are on
the radio. So I think that's that, this survival aspect
of it plus survivors forty days and forty nights, um,
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which is a lot when you're starting and all that's
that's a whole long time. I had six meals and
in forty days, um. And that's that's what I say.
That's the biggest difference though. That's forty days, forty nights, UM.
Nashville and the music industry, you know, Garth Brooks and
George Strader still playing all these years later. So if
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you can turn forty days into forty years um and
actually have a long career in the music industry, I
think that's the way to play. And that's that's what
my goal has always been. It's not trying to be
the overnight sensation and not try to have that overnight hit,
try to write the biggest, best songs possily right for myself,
but to have great relationships with people, treat people well.
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And I didn't get that early on in my career.
I didn't understand. I was trying to be the overnight
sensation for sure, um. And that takes your focus on
what really matters, which is great music and treating people well.
And and I think that if you have that mindset
in music industry, you're gonna you're gonna do really well,
and you're gonna move forward and and be around in
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forty years hopefully. I was gonna say, you've you've been
up close to these legends, you know, the Guards and
the Willie. Is there a common thread you see between
those those folks that have been doing it for for
decades that you that you notice that maybe people who
don't have that kind of staying power, don't have is
there something they're doing differently? Um. I think, first of all,
it starts with the music. If the music is not there,
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you're not gonna hang around. Um. And and that's for me,
My biggest focus is the music. Music has to be writing.
Music has to be believable from the person who's singing it.
And that's where I really focus hard on if your
music is great. But then then one thing I really
noticed when I played with Garth in February. I was
actually my last one of my last full band shows
before forever. That was my last show before the quarantine happened.
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And just the way he treated me, the way it
took the time I walked up, I was on stage
and all sound check and and he comes out to
me and we talked for probably fifteen minutes about The
funny part is what about music? There was nothing that
we talked about. It was about music, it was about life,
it was about God, it was about friends, family, UM.
And I even asked him, I said, man, it just
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feels like sometimes people are trying to pull at you
seventy five different ways. And he said, he said, man,
he's first of all, he said, has your relationship with God?
And for me. That's that's very personal because because that
puts me in and Garth and in at least the
same head space and um, and that was a special
moment for me. And he also the biggest thing i'd
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he said was you get to do music for a living.
You don't have to wake up, you don't have to
go to work, you don't have to go to the
bank whatever day. And I said the bank because both
my brothers, uh are one of them now works at
a bank, and him and I talk all the time.
He's like, man, you don't want my job. Trust me.
As great as it can be some days, it's not
all the time. Um, and I get to wake up
and do music and I get to wake up and
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sing songs and make people happy or try to make
people happy. So and that was his point to it all.
So the way he treated me was I think a huge,
huge reason why Garth Brooks is still one of the
best that country music and music in general has ever seen.
On top of the fact that he's got great music too.
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This whole time has been so tough on all of us.
But you know, also especially for musicians, because you can't
get up there and do what you love. What's been
keeping your feeling ground and hopeful, just knowing that this
will go away. Um, it's I mean this percent will
will go away. We will be back to Almo at
some point. I don't know what that looks like. I
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don't know if that's a year from now, six months,
two years. And honestly, social media has been huge for me,
just kind of simple as that, to be able to
stay in touch with people because as a musician, no
matter what anybody says, I mean, the fans are why
we do what we do. We literally aren't showing up
playing to nobody. If we were, that would what's the point.
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It's like sports, you can still at least compete music,
It's not that way when we show up. When I
show up to do a show. Um, the fans singing
back and the fans listening to us, being there for
each other is why it happens. So being able to
still have a connection with them via social media, which
is an ideal at all, but still having that knowing
that it's going to go away at some point we
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will be back to gathering. I saw, actually Eric Church,
I saw one of his random and Instagram post and
he was talking about people gathering, people gathering to worship,
people gathering too to drink, people gather into whatever to
sing songs. Um, it's always been a thing, and it
will get back to that. And I think if you
want to go check it out. He worded it really
really well. Well, I mean it's a primal thing. It's
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what humans do here, right, yeah, yeah, if we if
we don't, if we're you know, I used to even
think when I first moved to Nashville, is like, oh,
I gotta be I thought it was okay to be
a loner and kind of be in my my space
all the time, and that that gets lonely real real fast.
So you realize we're meant to gather. We're all meant
to be together and and and gather and be in
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a community. And country music community along with the fans,
is one of the best ones I've ever seen, ever
been a part of. So I'm looking forward to the
day where we can get back to that for sure.
My last question, I've had a lot of fun. It's
been interesting asking people this. If you can snap your
fingers and have everything returned to normal instantly, no virus,
no walkdown, will be the very first thing you do
go into a stadium full of people and feel normal again.
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I mean the last thing that I did before it
always play at Ford Field in Detroit and saying to
seventy thousand people with Garth Brooks. So, um, I would
do that again. If that's that's what I love to do.
That's why I got into music, and I'm a wrestler.
Why I got into it, I guess, but that's what
I've made me really fall in love with music was
seeing live shows and I loved it as a fan
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before ever did it as an artist. So even if
I wasn't the artist on stage, I just want to
be around a concert again and be around that many
people with that much energy. Um, I'd go right and
I'd do that in a second. If it wasn't that,
it also be a put me into sec football field
somewhere and let let me let me hear the crowd
of that. Yeah like that. It makes me happy football stadiums.
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Once a linebacker, always a linebacker, yep. So I know
again I didn't get to play in the NFL certain circumstances,
but like I said, the last show I did was
in Detroit and Ford Field. So now I'm playing in
NFL stadiums and it's uh, it feels good. I'm ready
to get back to it. We got those stadiums one
way or another. Yep, either way, let's do it. We
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Welcome the Inside the Studio presented by I Heart Radio.
I'm your host, Joe Lousy. Okay, So, if you have
talked to as many musicians as I have, you have
heard a lot of stories about life on the road,
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and some of them are hilarious, and some of them
are sad, and some of them are something else. Because
I've talked with musicians who simply cannot adjust to staying
in one place at a time after so many nights
in vans, buses, airplanes. I mean, I've talked to guys
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who have trouble sleeping in a bed that's not moving.
And I thought of that when the guests on this
episode of the home edition of the show, Chase Rice
opened up about having some difficulty tapping into his creativity
because these last few months of quarantine are the longest
he's ever been off the road since he started putting
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out music ten years ago. I mean, as he puts it,
when he's on, he's on, and when he's off, he's off.
And I guess lately he feels like he's off. He's
been on vacation sort of. I mean he's even checking
in with us from Wrightsville Beach in North Carolina. So
things are not all bad. You know. We started the
home edition of Inside the Studio to let you know
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how the pandemic has impacted the lives of artists and
how it's affecting the way they make music. Chase Rice
has released two EPs already this year, and he tells
our Quarantine correspondent Jordan Runtog that there may be a
stadium sized guest collaboration on the third, which he's working
on now. If you enjoy this episode, be sure to
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listen to the I Heart Radio podcast that Jordan's hosts.
It's called Rivals, Music's Greatest Feuds, and it's available where
ever you get your podcasts. Hello everybody, my name is
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Jordan run Tug. But enough about me. My guest today
has worn many hats over the years. He was a
college football linebacker, a member of the NASCAR pit crew,
and a contestant on the reality show Survivor Nicaragua. But
you know him as a country powerhouse who first climbed
the charts with Ready Set Role. Since then, he scored
hits like Eyes on You and also panned the Florida
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Georgia line smash Cruise in January. He's surprised fans by
releasing the album Part one, the first in a series
of EPs featuring what he says is some of the
most meaningful music he's ever made. I'm so happy to
welcome Chase Rice, Chase, thank you so much for being here.
Oh no, thank you man. This will be And I'm
literally at the beach and I'm just chilling. So oh nice.
Wait what beach right? Soul Beach in North Carolina? Oh nice? Oh?
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I used to go to the Outer Banks as a
kid every year. Yeah, actually just south of there. So
um so this this day in quarantine finds you very well,
I should say, yeah, this is this is one of
the good ones for sure. Oh man, that's good to hear.
How have you been feeling, I mean, are you feeling
particularly creative during lockdown or not so much? Uh No,
I'm not. I haven't been on the type of I
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think that like when I'm on, I'm on, I'm I'm go,
go go, and when I'm off, I'm off. And I've
always been good about that because I'm on ten months
a year, so there's two months off are pretty easy.
It's like, okay, well I don't have that long, so
I'll take off. But this has been weird. Obviously, this
is the longest time I've ever not towards so um
I'll shut my mind off from that. And it's been
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very hard for me, especially live shows or what I
really thrive off of, and that that's the energy that
I love. UM, So not being able to do those
it's been it's been hard. Well. I know, in January
you put out the album Part One, which I think
you've described it as like the beginning of your career
as I think the quote you had for why is
that was it feeling like you were getting back to
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basics in a way, or I mean I've only played
I didn't even learn how to play guitar, so I
was like twenty two years old or around there. So
I think you just do something long enough, no matter
what it is, and you get better at it as
you go. And I think tip of the iceberg for
me was was for sure eyes on You. I just
really really found what I really wanted to do, I
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think with that song, and so that gliding right into
the album Part one, I think that's the That's that's
why I say it at the beginning of my career
because it's really what I found what I want to do.
I mean, you weren't so many hats in the past.
You've football, linebacker, NASCAR pit man, been on Survivor. Did
you know from an early age that music was what
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you wanted to do with your life or was this
something that kind of revealed itself to you later? No? No,
I definitely revealed itself later. We Uh, Like I said,
I didn't know how to play guitar until I was
years old somewhere around there. So once I learned that,
it was more just I just love playing guitar. I
love learning these songs from the guys that I grew
up listening to. And and I remember one of my
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college roommates was like, he said, man, you should be
a country singer, where he was sitting there playing and
I'd sing along in the dorm room and stuff, and
that was as foreign as him saying you should be
an astronaut, like that's how fun was playing football. I
was focused on that, And so when he said that,
I just it's funny now that after seeing obviously what's
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going on with my life and and doing this for real,
is is um it's crazy that that not that long ago,
it was such a foreign concept to me, and they
tore in with Willie Nelson Garth Brooks, that's crazy. What
would Baby Chase think of that? It's incredible. Yeah, I would.
I would definitely look back if you had told me
that way back then, I'd be like, wait, what, So
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a lot of fun, It's been a lot of fun
to get to this this point. Now. It's uh, obviously
this year's kind of a weird one for everybody, but
it's it's still in a great direction and I'm I'm
excited to the day where we can finally actually play
the album Part one live into the album Part one.
Part two came in in May. What was the strategy
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behind sort of dividing the album up like that. It's
just the white people listen to music these days. Um,
it's just it's become a singles world. And I don't
like that very much because I think it just focuses
to that's just not how I how I grew up
listening to music. So I tried to find a little
bit of a middle ground of I don't want to
just put out singles. I don't want to just do that.
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I want to still tell a story. Albums to me
are still very important, but I want each song to
have it's it's time in the limelight. I want each
song to have it's time to be heard. And if
you put fifteen sixteen songs on a on a record anymore,
people tend to just kind of go through and pick
a couple of their favorites and move on. But if
you give them less to listen to, but giving more music,
you know less music more often. I'm finding that that
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gives people the chance to really dive into seven songs,
or drive into four songs or three songs and learn
those and then they can move onto two more music.
What can we look forward to on part three? I
haven't fully put it together yet, to be honest, but
I think I've never really done a huge, huge collapse.
I did ride with Macy malloy and she's amazing, um,
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But for me to do a song with any artists
that just is up in the stadium's level of music
and a huge arena level of music, um, which I'm
not there yet. I'm still clawing and fighting to get there. UM.
I think that could be something pretty special. So I'm
working on a possible song with f gl Um. I
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think it's It's a cool story with those guys because
we were roommates when I first moved to town, and
I don't hope a lot of people know that. We
literally just lived in the house. We we're broke as
you can pretty much get, and we were just writing
songs together. We ended up writing Cruise and that changed
my life, it changed their life. Um, and we haven't
put out anything mainstream ever together. So I think if
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if we could figure out a way to find a song,
we got a couple in mind, we're gonna go in
the studio and just kind of see what happens. But
I think that will be the highlight of the album
part three and possibly um pushing whatever song we end
up figuring out to being the next thing. Oh, that
is incredible. I I also heard you're working with Shay
from Tan and Shay Too. What's the latest on that? Yeah?
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I love Shay, I don't Shay years. Um. We have
a song called Secrets that we've just never finished. It's
I mean, we started it one night and literally after
bar we just wanted to his apartment which is also
a studio, started this song and then like two and
a half years later, got back together, started to finish it.
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Still didn't finish it. Um and now we every time
we see each other like, hey man, when we're gonna
finish secrets. So I don't know one day what day
that will happen, but we'll finish it at some point
because it is a great song. It sounds like a
good Quarantine project. Yeah. That's the thing is that you
think right now we have all the time in the
world to be creative and do music. But for me,
my mind just in there. So I think it's gotta
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it's gotta come to you. Yeah, I can't force it
for me, it does I I can't force it. If
I force it, trust me that you ain't gonna life
what you hear. I know you're you're a very active
journal or journalist, diarists something like that. Do you ever
draw your song inspirations from what you write in your
in your journal? Not really. I don't think that it's
directly correlates to a song, Like I don't write something
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and be like, oh, that's a good song title. But
I do think it's it's been why I can write songs.
I think it's it's allowed me to just be able
to dive into that part of your brain when you're journaling.
My only rule is just to write. I have no rules,
just right Philip age, Philip page, and whatever comes out
comes out. Um, And usually it's about the day before
that that day whatever, I do it in the morning
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and night. But I think that allows me to go
to that part of my brain that is kind of
similar or at least close to writing songs and get
creative in that way. So it's it's definitely helped me
along the way. I would say, do you start with
a lyric or a title or do you have a
tune in your head and then put lyrics to sort
of fit whatever that tune is. Um, they kind of
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hit at the same time sometimes, But I like, I
like having titles and ideas and when I say that,
like to me, the melody is gonna come. We're gonna
figure that part out. But as long as I have
a title and where I kind of wanted to go, um,
like like guys on you, for instance, I'll tell you
about how we wrote that one. It's uh actually Groy
was in there playing the piano and I was just
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I had I walked in and I was like, man,
that that sounds amazing. But I don't. I don't know.
I mean, obviously, what is it about. It's just a
piano melody. So I'm looking through my phone, looking through
my phone. It's where I keep my notes. And I
had a song called eyes on You travel the whole world,
but missed it all because your eyes are on her,
And I just thought about that. I was like, that's
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enough for me. If I have that and I have
the title, at least have the idea of what that means,
then you can put it to a melody. And that's
what we did that particular day, and uh, and obviously
the rest of that one is history. So it's some
days it works like that. Some days it doesn't work
at all. So songwriting songwright could be the toughest thing
you've ever done. And then some days a song like
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guys on You comes. It's like going fishing. Some days
he catch nothing, and then some days you get a
big one. Some days you catch them all. So yeah,
some days you read a bunch of little or you
catch a bunch of little ones, and some days that
that big one hits, and it's, uh, those are the
fun ones. I love fishing. So you're talking about language,
I I saw a video tour you were giving of
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your house recently. Uh, beautiful house, something I had never
seen before. You have an indoor crossbow range. Yeah, that's
compound bow is what I should. I could shoot across across.
I have a different target for that, but it's mainly
just I have my bow set up right there. When
I don't feel like walking the when I'm lazy enough
to not want to walk the hunter yards out to
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the outdoor range, or if it's too hot or some
like that, I'll just pick it up real quick watching TV,
take a couple of shots. And it's a good practice
for me. I'm a big hunter. Um and and for
me it means a lot. I mean, you're going out there,
you're putting an animal in danger like that. You better
be good. You better practice what you're doing, because my
goal is to go out there and get it done
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as quick as possible so that they feel the least
amount of pain they can. And uh, and then I
have a freezer full of food for at least a year,
So that's uh. I take it very seriously. And that
that that compound bone in my kitchen helps a lot.
Let's gonna say, what is your favorite distraction these days
when you know, we all need that, we need to
go exercise, binge watch, tiger king or something like. Is
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that hunting for you? What's your favorite distraction these days? Uh?
Well that that's usually the time of the year for me,
which is the fall. So I haven't been able to
do that a lot. Um. I've been starting to get
back into two fishing a good bit. Um, but I
like going out west of fish so and I'm a
big fly f fly fish. That's about all I do.
I might start going back out there now that everything's
to open it up a little bit at least to travel, Um,
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go out there and start doing a little bit fishing.
I'm at the beach this week and just kind of relaxing,
getting away from everything. Um, and a lot of drinking.
I have, me and my buddies. We've had we've had
a quarantine crew with a couple of families and a
couple of friends and and we have we have drink
enough enough to fill this ocean over here, I believe
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in the last three months. And I think a lot
of people are doing that. Um. It went from like
Friday Saturday too, all right, Thursday, Friday, Saturday Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
all right, Monday? Why not? Uh so we gotta we
we've better tone it back a little bit, but we've
got fun. How has there been a sort of a
silver lining of all this for you? Is it like
taught you something about yourself? You picked up a new hobby. Well,
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I remember telling him John, my tour manager. So we
took February and March off the beginning of the year.
It's just a week of gear up for the rest
of the year. And I said to him, like, probably
three weeks before we're about to go back out in April.
I said, Man, I'm not really ready to go back yet.
I just kinda that was a short break and we
just kept traveling through the break. We pick up an
acoustic show here, uh, any type of show just to
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go play, you know, whatever it was. And and I
didn't get my break in. And I remember and I
talked to God a lot. Whether whether he hears me
or not, I'm not real sure. But I was just like, man, God,
I'm not really ready to go back here, um just yet.
And uh, he answered me, and possibly the biggest way
he's ever answered anybody, he said, all right, cool, take
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the rest of the year off. And I didn't quite
mean that, but here we are. It's a It's definitely
allowed me to fall in love with wanting to get
on the road again and wanting to tour and wanting
to be Um, you get tired, I mean you get
real tired on the road, especially when you toured for
seven basically seven straight years like we have. So this
has allowed me to realize I'll probably never complain about
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tour again in my life. I'll be like, oh, thank God,
let us go. It's definitely a big be careful what
you wished for a moment, I guess so you're for sure.
I'm still I'm still living in this wish right now.
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I UM, I loved your song Belong. I just thought
it was such a sort of a hopeful, optimistic message
in these you know, really stressful to multiple divided times.
Uh what does that song mean to you? Where did
that come from? Yeah? It's um, it means a lot.
It means a whole whole lot, especially right now, and
I think it's it's getting even more important the more
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stressed out people are getting. The more I'm not real sure.
There's just so many different issues going on right now
and so many different opinions on on so many different things.
So the part that I don't love about something's going
right now just is a lot of negativity, whether that's
people not wanting to hear other people's opinions. And I
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just think that people need to slow down and actually
have conversations about these things because the battles on social
media and stuff, it's, uh, it's dangerous. It allows you
to kind of hide behind the screen. And if people
will just have conversations and actually talk about it, I
think they'll realize that every it's not as crazy as
as some people are making it out to be. So
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that's why I just wanted to put that message out there.
It's like, y'all, let's take a second. We're right where
we belong. We're not changing what's going on right now,
that this is the world we live in. Whether it's quarantine,
whether it's social injustice matters, um, so let's have a
conversation about it and enjoy where we are. And I
think that will actually spring forward a lot more change
for the future. And uh, it's conversations need to happen,
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and I think that's what belongs about for me especially,
We're right where we belong. Let's talk about it, let's
live in it, and hopefully learn from and move forward
in a in a positive way. Great song, a great message.
What have you been listening to during quarantine? Because I
don't know about you, but I've been sort of following
back on the old familiar like I've been listening to
the stuff I've been listened to since high school just
because I want to feel that sort of connection and
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just familiarity. How about you? Yeah, it's I started laughing
because I was like, oh, my god, So I've been
hanging out. There's there's been two buddies that, uh, that
I've become and that he's talked about silver lining. These
two guys, I didn't really know him that well before quarantine.
And one's Ryan Johansson from the Nashville Predators and once
James Neil from the Evans and Oilers who used to
play for the Preds. And they're hockey guys. These are
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got hockey guys straight out of Canada. And my god,
like now we've just become really good buddies. But I'll
say this, I have never heard more nickel back in
my entire life. Than hanging out with these two guys. Man,
it's it's I mean, we have a playlist that the
day will be going, that they'll be going as soon
as rock star or photograph comes on. It's like our
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eyes are gonna meet at some point around the house
or some point point around the pool wherever we're all hanging.
It's like, oh God, here we go again. We're actually
doing this again today. Okay, nickelbacks off, Let's go No exactly. Yeah,
that's like the kind of stuff that we playing. It's
just like I want something I I know that just
makes me, just takes me away from where I am now.
I guess maybe I'm not sure why I do it. Yeah,
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I know. I love reminiscent songs. I think one of
the best to ever do songs like that, um is
Kenny Chesty. I think he's got a lot of songs
like that. I'm at the beach right now. Anything but
mine is one of my favorite songs of all time.
So I love songs that do take me back, and
I will I will forever after this, I'll be able
to hear nickelback and it'll take me back to this
quarantine promise. Oh yeah, Well, I guess I didn't think
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about that being but I'm I'm putting new memories on
these old songs now exactly. Now you're gonna think about quarantine.
Oh man, I gotta choose my songs more carefully now,
I gotta ask. I'm a huge Willie Nelson fan. I
know you've been on the road with him. Uh what
was that? Like? My God, that's that's a dream for
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me because I have a lot of memories. My grandpa
and grandma will come visit me and my brothers once
a year and they take they take us on the
road and their motor home. And that's part why I
think I got it. I love being on the road
so much because I grew up like really wanting to
enjoy and really looking forward to hanging out with my
grandparents for two weeks in the summer in a motor home,
you know, kind of tour bus type style, UM and
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travel in the country. And the song he'd always played
when he rolled in on this ultimate horn, this little
push button thing that they have, UM was on the
road again by Willie Nelson. And every time he'd come in,
he'd be playing that, and every time he'd leave, they'd
be playing that, so that always took me back to
hanging out for on summers, kind of my training for
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being on tour for the rest of my life. And
then the very first guy that I go on to
tour with, it was a two week long thing eight
nine years ago now, um, was with Willie Nelson. So
it was unbelievable. It was really cool to hear him
sing that, obviously because that one took me back. Um,
and he's a I mean he wrote crazy like that.
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That's one of the greatest songs of all time and
and uh, funny time slips away. I know, man, it's uh.
It was unbelievable, really cool experience, and really cool that
I got to get to say that I didn't you know, yeah,
did you let you play trigger a guitar? I got
to touch trigger one time. I didn't. I didn't play trigger. Um,
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I'm sure he would have. I don't know, but I
did get I put my hands on trigger, and I
was just like, this is history right here. Oh man,
that's that's so cool. So I got a funny question
for it. You've done so much prior to music, I've
never been able to ask anyone this, but you're in
a unique position to answer, in what ways is the
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music industry like being on survivor coming for you? It's um,
So you can plead the fifth if you want, no, No,
it's it's a good question. UM. I do think there's
an aspect of of competition in music, and I think
you'd be crazy not to say that that's not true. Um. Yeah.
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Everybody talks about Nashville, how it's a community. Everybody talks
about how it's like one big family. But at the
end of the day, we're all still trying to get
our songs played. So the less songs that this over
here is getting played, the more chance I have a
getting eyes on you or only if you are on
the radio. So I think that's that, this survival aspect
of it plus survivors forty days and forty nights, um,
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which is a lot when you're starting and all that's
that's a whole long time. I had six meals and
in forty days, um. And that's that's what I say.
That's the biggest difference though. That's forty days, forty nights, UM.
Nashville and the music industry, you know, Garth Brooks and
George Strader still playing all these years later. So if
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you can turn forty days into forty years um and
actually have a long career in the music industry, I
think that's the way to play. And that's that's what
my goal has always been. It's not trying to be
the overnight sensation and not try to have that overnight hit,
try to write the biggest, best songs possily right for myself,
but to have great relationships with people, treat people well.
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And I didn't get that early on in my career.
I didn't understand. I was trying to be the overnight
sensation for sure, um. And that takes your focus on
what really matters, which is great music and treating people well.
And and I think that if you have that mindset
in music industry, you're gonna you're gonna do really well,
and you're gonna move forward and and be around in
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forty years hopefully. I was gonna say, you've you've been
up close to these legends, you know, the Guards and
the Willie. Is there a common thread you see between
those those folks that have been doing it for for
decades that you that you notice that maybe people who
don't have that kind of staying power, don't have is
there something they're doing differently? Um. I think, first of all,
it starts with the music. If the music is not there,
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you're not gonna hang around. Um. And and that's for me,
My biggest focus is the music. Music has to be writing.
Music has to be believable from the person who's singing it.
And that's where I really focus hard on if your
music is great. But then then one thing I really
noticed when I played with Garth in February. I was
actually my last one of my last full band shows
before forever. That was my last show before the quarantine happened.
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And just the way he treated me, the way it
took the time I walked up, I was on stage
and all sound check and and he comes out to
me and we talked for probably fifteen minutes about The
funny part is what about music? There was nothing that
we talked about. It was about music, it was about life,
it was about God, it was about friends, family, UM.
And I even asked him, I said, man, it just
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feels like sometimes people are trying to pull at you
seventy five different ways. And he said, he said, man,
he's first of all, he said, has your relationship with God?
And for me. That's that's very personal because because that
puts me in and Garth and in at least the
same head space and um, and that was a special
moment for me. And he also the biggest thing i'd
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he said was you get to do music for a living.
You don't have to wake up, you don't have to
go to work, you don't have to go to the
bank whatever day. And I said the bank because both
my brothers, uh are one of them now works at
a bank, and him and I talk all the time.
He's like, man, you don't want my job. Trust me.
As great as it can be some days, it's not
all the time. Um, and I get to wake up
and do music and I get to wake up and
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sing songs and make people happy or try to make
people happy. So and that was his point to it all.
So the way he treated me was I think a huge,
huge reason why Garth Brooks is still one of the
best that country music and music in general has ever seen.
On top of the fact that he's got great music too.
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This whole time has been so tough on all of us.
But you know, also especially for musicians, because you can't
get up there and do what you love. What's been
keeping your feeling ground and hopeful, just knowing that this
will go away. Um, it's I mean this percent will
will go away. We will be back to Almo at
some point. I don't know what that looks like. I
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don't know if that's a year from now, six months,
two years. And honestly, social media has been huge for me,
just kind of simple as that, to be able to
stay in touch with people because as a musician, no
matter what anybody says, I mean, the fans are why
we do what we do. We literally aren't showing up
playing to nobody. If we were, that would what's the point.
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It's like sports, you can still at least compete music,
It's not that way when we show up. When I
show up to do a show. Um, the fans singing
back and the fans listening to us, being there for
each other is why it happens. So being able to
still have a connection with them via social media, which
is an ideal at all, but still having that knowing
that it's going to go away at some point we
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will be back to gathering. I saw, actually Eric Church,
I saw one of his random and Instagram post and
he was talking about people gathering, people gathering to worship,
people gathering too to drink, people gather into whatever to
sing songs. Um, it's always been a thing, and it
will get back to that. And I think if you
want to go check it out. He worded it really
really well. Well, I mean it's a primal thing. It's
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what humans do here, right, yeah, yeah, if we if
we don't, if we're you know, I used to even
think when I first moved to Nashville, is like, oh,
I gotta be I thought it was okay to be
a loner and kind of be in my my space
all the time, and that that gets lonely real real fast.
So you realize we're meant to gather. We're all meant
to be together and and and gather and be in
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a community. And country music community along with the fans,
is one of the best ones I've ever seen, ever
been a part of. So I'm looking forward to the
day where we can get back to that for sure.
My last question, I've had a lot of fun. It's
been interesting asking people this. If you can snap your
fingers and have everything returned to normal instantly, no virus,
no walkdown, will be the very first thing you do
go into a stadium full of people and feel normal again.
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I mean the last thing that I did before it
always play at Ford Field in Detroit and saying to
seventy thousand people with Garth Brooks. So, um, I would
do that again. If that's that's what I love to do.
That's why I got into music, and I'm a wrestler.
Why I got into it, I guess, but that's what
I've made me really fall in love with music was
seeing live shows and I loved it as a fan
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before ever did it as an artist. So even if
I wasn't the artist on stage, I just want to
be around a concert again and be around that many
people with that much energy. Um, I'd go right and
I'd do that in a second. If it wasn't that,
it also be a put me into sec football field
somewhere and let let me let me hear the crowd
of that. Yeah like that. It makes me happy football stadiums.
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Once a linebacker, always a linebacker, yep. So I know
again I didn't get to play in the NFL certain circumstances,
but like I said, the last show I did was
in Detroit and Ford Field. So now I'm playing in
NFL stadiums and it's uh, it feels good. I'm ready
to get back to it. We got those stadiums one
way or another. Yep, either way, let's do it. We
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